Bournemouth Conference – final amendments deadline looming (9 September)

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Just been skimming through the Bournemouth Conference agenda. A few thoughts:

a) I’m thinking of writing an amendment for the Europe policy paper, but I’ll blog about that seperately.

b) No-one has requested a seperate vote on Road User Charging in the transport debate. Not being a conference rep, I don’t have that option. Anyone?

c) Regarding membership fees: the Bones Commission recommends making the “recommended” rate the “minimum” membership fee (but keeping the concessionary rate). I agree. Would anyone support an amendment to this effect? Or, if you think that is too big a step in one go, upping the minimum rate to, say, Â£20?

UPDATE: I’ve left it a bit late to be organising any amendments. Soz. None of them were crucial.

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13 responses to “Bournemouth Conference – final amendments deadline looming (9 September)”

3 September 2008

Jo Christie-Smith

I’d support ‘c’ as long as you have concessions allowed. Minimum membership rate should at least cover the costs of administering them.

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3 September 2008

James Graham

Absolutely – the concessionary rate would remain. It just seems odd to have a ‘minimum’ rate as well.

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3 September 2008

Gareth Epps

There will be a separate vote on road charging. Not sure why it isn’t in the Agenda.

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3 September 2008

Linda Jack

Yes, separate vote on road charging………….and who’s with me for renationalisation of the railways???????

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4 September 2008

Ryan Cullen

I think at Â£10 the minimum is too high. The Party claim on multiple times that the cost per member is about Â£12, but doesn’t seem to consider the marginal cost per new member.
And what do we get for our Â£10? 4 copies of LibDem News, which as I live with my wife who already gets LDN, we end up with 3 copies of the same issue and a series of begging letters.
At least CAMRA (Â£25 joint) send us a newspaper and magazine each month and give me free or discounted entry to beer festivals, which feels like I’m getting something.

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4 September 2008

James Graham

The economics of party membership is very different from NGO membership. Demand is very inelastic, which means the party can only lose money by keeping the minimum fee at a low rate. We don’t gain members by keeping membership low (although we do increase the scope for entryism), we only reduce our capacity to invest in recruitment. The party should be going for whichever rate maximises revenue – I’m sure CAMRA do the same.

With that said, I certainly agree that the current practice of limiting fulfillment to a Lib Dem News is pretty shoddy (why do you both subscribe to LDN though?). But again, what do you expect?

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4 September 2008

Greg Simpson

Hi James,

Which part of the Europe paper were you planning to amend?

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4 September 2008

James Graham

Well, I’m going to write in detail about it tomorrow, but in a nutshell it was going to call for the UK to negotiate and ratify future European treaties on the basis of a broad political consensus, rather than ramming them through Parliament as if they were ordinary legislation. We ought to be good Europeans like France, Germany and the Baltic states and at the very least require a supermajority of both Houses before ratification. Not sure anyone could seriously object to that and I would have thought FPC would have no difficulty in accepting it, but I’m always ready to be surprised!

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5 September 2008

Greg Simpson

sounds interesting

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5 September 2008

Christine Watson

Road user pricing from any point of view restricts travel to those that can pay. Travel to work, travel to family – where will it all end?

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5 September 2008

Chris Keating

Hi James,

Do you have any evidence for demand for Party membership being inelastic, or is that an educated guess on your part?

Chris

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5 September 2008

James Graham

It is based on the fact that membership has plunged by 40000 over a decade, despite the minimum subscription rate rising below inflation throughout the bulk of that period. This is of course in line with other parties (compared to Labour we’ve done relatively well but from a lower starting position). Fundamentally, people don’t treat membership of political parties like they do soap powder. They aren’t looking for the best ‘deal’. Fewer and fewer people WANT to join – lowest on their priorities is how much it costs and most people can afford a fiver a month.

Frankly I’d be surprised if membership of all types of political organisation aren’t inelastic. A low membership rate hasn’t helped ERS for example. People join these things to make a contribution.

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5 September 2008

Chris Keating

I’m not sure that’s good evidence for inelasticity in itself, given all the other factors affecting Party membership over the last 10 years.

However, that doesn’t necessarily mean you’re wrong, either.

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