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  • Saturday, October 11th, 2008 at 15:48 | #1

    I use “ise” myself, but point 2) is a little more complicated than you suggest:

    http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-ise1.htm

    I shall still be votin for Ros, mind you.

  • Saturday, October 11th, 2008 at 15:53 | #2

    I realise I am guilty of oversimplification but the harshness of “-ize” sets my teeth on edge.

  • Saturday, October 11th, 2008 at 16:18 | #3

    Ah, nice that Jonathan got there first, with the whole “-ize isn’t necessarily American”

    I’d be more worried that the photos on the inside of the site seem to be of a different guy to the photos on the splash page.

  • Saturday, October 11th, 2008 at 17:33 | #4

    It’s not just that the “-ize” is not just American, it is that “-ise” is deprecated even by the OED as being both phonetically and etymologically incorrect.

    One might expect pro-European folk I suppose to warm to the more French “-ise” but that doesn’t make it any the more correct..:)

  • James Graham
    Saturday, October 11th, 2008 at 18:35 | #5

    Mea culpa, mea culpa. That’s me told, although if you start choosing the spelling of words based on etymology and phonetics, where will you end? (Doubt? Edinburgh? And why not desentralize?).

    The gf tells me that Inspector Morse hated ‘-ize’ so I suppose it boils down to which Oxfordian institution you prefer.

  • James Graham
    Saturday, October 11th, 2008 at 18:37 | #6

    Can’t we all just be gentlemen and let HotForWords decide?

  • Jason Batton
    Sunday, October 12th, 2008 at 12:23 | #7

    Dear oh Dear how petty can one get - and how wrong on the pettiness.

    It has long been accepted that the spelling of “ise” or “ize” is a matter of choice.

    The Oxford University Press, publishers of many dictionaries and books on the English language, and the Cambridge University Press, publishers of the Encyclopedia Britannica, use “ize”.

    Even the Times Literary Supplement prints “ize” spelling not only in contributions from American writers, but throughout the entire magazine. And you will find that most company Web sites use “ize” spelling - though this is by no means a hard and fast rule.

    You are just plain wrong on this James and does you no credit to get that petty.

  • Sunday, October 12th, 2008 at 16:20 | #8

    Hold on a minute. Arguing about point 2 is fair enough, but what about points 1, 3, 4 and 5?

  • Kevin Williams
    Tuesday, October 14th, 2008 at 11:33 | #9

    I have to check my spellings in the dictionary frequently. I can confirm the OED accepts both but “-ize” is considered to be more english than american.

    Mr Graham complains about Chandila’s image but has he considered his own?

  • Tuesday, October 14th, 2008 at 11:55 | #10

    I’m not standing for Party President on a platform of being a professional who is capable of sorting out the party’s image. I have nothing to prove.

    But yes, I have an image and it suits my purposes very well indeed, thank you.

    I take it from your silence that you accept points 1, 3, 4 and 5 are all valid points then? I’ll take 4 out of 5 any day.

  • Bob Nudd
    Thursday, October 16th, 2008 at 11:55 | #11

    Maybe it’s a firefox or cross browser thing, but this page is particularly amusing - http://d155621.u39.ceylonnet.com/news.php?news_id=4

    Seems the results of the brainstorming session were reasonably minimal then…

  • Thursday, October 16th, 2008 at 12:12 | #12

    I noticed that too but I was being very good and not drawing people’s attention to it.

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