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  • Wednesday, September 3rd, 2008 at 18:50 | #1

    I’d support ‘c’ as long as you have concessions allowed. Minimum membership rate should at least cover the costs of administering them.

  • James Graham
    Wednesday, September 3rd, 2008 at 18:53 | #2

    Absolutely – the concessionary rate would remain. It just seems odd to have a ‘minimum’ rate as well.

  • Wednesday, September 3rd, 2008 at 20:56 | #3

    There will be a separate vote on road charging. Not sure why it isn’t in the Agenda.

  • Wednesday, September 3rd, 2008 at 21:11 | #4

    Yes, separate vote on road charging………….and who’s with me for renationalisation of the railways???????

  • Thursday, September 4th, 2008 at 08:51 | #5

    I think at £10 the minimum is too high. The Party claim on multiple times that the cost per member is about £12, but doesn’t seem to consider the marginal cost per new member.
    And what do we get for our £10? 4 copies of LibDem News, which as I live with my wife who already gets LDN, we end up with 3 copies of the same issue and a series of begging letters.
    At least CAMRA (£25 joint) send us a newspaper and magazine each month and give me free or discounted entry to beer festivals, which feels like I’m getting something.

  • James Graham
    Thursday, September 4th, 2008 at 09:18 | #6

    The economics of party membership is very different from NGO membership. Demand is very inelastic, which means the party can only lose money by keeping the minimum fee at a low rate. We don’t gain members by keeping membership low (although we do increase the scope for entryism), we only reduce our capacity to invest in recruitment. The party should be going for whichever rate maximises revenue – I’m sure CAMRA do the same.

    With that said, I certainly agree that the current practice of limiting fulfillment to a Lib Dem News is pretty shoddy (why do you both subscribe to LDN though?). But again, what do you expect?

  • Greg Simpson
    Thursday, September 4th, 2008 at 13:36 | #7

    Hi James,

    Which part of the Europe paper were you planning to amend?

  • James Graham
    Thursday, September 4th, 2008 at 14:06 | #8

    Well, I’m going to write in detail about it tomorrow, but in a nutshell it was going to call for the UK to negotiate and ratify future European treaties on the basis of a broad political consensus, rather than ramming them through Parliament as if they were ordinary legislation. We ought to be good Europeans like France, Germany and the Baltic states and at the very least require a supermajority of both Houses before ratification. Not sure anyone could seriously object to that and I would have thought FPC would have no difficulty in accepting it, but I’m always ready to be surprised!

  • Greg Simpson
    Friday, September 5th, 2008 at 08:10 | #9

    sounds interesting

  • Friday, September 5th, 2008 at 10:17 | #10

    Road user pricing from any point of view restricts travel to those that can pay. Travel to work, travel to family – where will it all end?

  • Friday, September 5th, 2008 at 10:42 | #11

    Hi James,

    Do you have any evidence for demand for Party membership being inelastic, or is that an educated guess on your part?

    Chris

  • James Graham
    Friday, September 5th, 2008 at 11:30 | #12

    It is based on the fact that membership has plunged by 40000 over a decade, despite the minimum subscription rate rising below inflation throughout the bulk of that period. This is of course in line with other parties (compared to Labour we’ve done relatively well but from a lower starting position). Fundamentally, people don’t treat membership of political parties like they do soap powder. They aren’t looking for the best ‘deal’. Fewer and fewer people WANT to join – lowest on their priorities is how much it costs and most people can afford a fiver a month.

    Frankly I’d be surprised if membership of all types of political organisation aren’t inelastic. A low membership rate hasn’t helped ERS for example. People join these things to make a contribution.

  • Friday, September 5th, 2008 at 12:19 | #13

    I’m not sure that’s good evidence for inelasticity in itself, given all the other factors affecting Party membership over the last 10 years.

    However, that doesn’t necessarily mean you’re wrong, either.

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