Comments on: … 25 years later http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2008/01/31/25-years-later/ "crass, boorish and more a bruiser than blogger" - Alex Wilcock Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:15:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: OneHourAhead | Blogging and that http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2008/01/31/25-years-later/#comment-170658 OneHourAhead | Blogging and that Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:21:23 +0000 http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2008/01/31/25-years-later/#comment-170658 [...] Be it James Graham’s discussions on the inner workings of the British comic market, Jenny detailing her latest hangover or Ed Fordham’s daily virtual tours around North London, [...] [...] Be it James Graham’s discussions on the inner workings of the British comic market, Jenny detailing her latest hangover or Ed Fordham’s daily virtual tours around North London, [...]

]]> By: James Graham http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2008/01/31/25-years-later/#comment-156104 James Graham Fri, 01 Feb 2008 10:07:15 +0000 http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2008/01/31/25-years-later/#comment-156104 Congratulations on coming out Chris! For me, miniatures wargaming was something I flirted with until I realised how much you had to spend - and even then they jacked the prices up! I did go through a period of buying all the rulebooks but for one very simple reason: the artwork, and in particular John Blanche's stuff which I loved. Having gone through the Dark Heresy rulebook in more detail last night, I fear it is one of those titles that is going to sit on my shelf unplayed. The deep pessimism of 40K makes for a suitable setting for a wargame, but there's no real drama in it. Congratulations on coming out Chris! For me, miniatures wargaming was something I flirted with until I realised how much you had to spend - and even then they jacked the prices up! I did go through a period of buying all the rulebooks but for one very simple reason: the artwork, and in particular John Blanche’s stuff which I loved.

Having gone through the Dark Heresy rulebook in more detail last night, I fear it is one of those titles that is going to sit on my shelf unplayed. The deep pessimism of 40K makes for a suitable setting for a wargame, but there’s no real drama in it.

]]> By: Mark Heenan http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2008/01/31/25-years-later/#comment-155840 Mark Heenan Fri, 01 Feb 2008 00:54:00 +0000 http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2008/01/31/25-years-later/#comment-155840 "Okay, I admit it, I’m a geek." Golly, I never suspected a thing... :) “Okay, I admit it, I’m a geek.”

Golly, I never suspected a thing… :)

]]> By: Chris Black http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2008/01/31/25-years-later/#comment-155749 Chris Black Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:06:35 +0000 http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2008/01/31/25-years-later/#comment-155749 Confession time. If we are talking about geekiness. the first White Dwarf I bought was issue 9. And the only money I've ever earned for writng anything was £50 for an article on AD&D Druids (but for a different mgazine than White Dwarf) I was RPG kind of guy. Personally , I wouldn't touch miniatures wargaming with a polearm. Confession time.

If we are talking about geekiness. the first White Dwarf I bought was issue 9. And the only money I’ve ever earned for writng anything was £50 for an article on AD&D Druids (but for a different mgazine than White Dwarf)

I was RPG kind of guy. Personally , I wouldn’t touch miniatures wargaming with a polearm.

]]> By: James Graham http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2008/01/31/25-years-later/#comment-155678 James Graham Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:37:12 +0000 http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2008/01/31/25-years-later/#comment-155678 Oh, I'm sure it makes sense commercially (I should point out that their business is now pulp fiction as well which by all accounts is doing very well), but it's still bloody annoying. Either you're in the business or you ain't. Fundamentally, I don't think they thought enough about their business plan. The RPG business is not a profitable one - there are loads of dead companies that have fallen by the wayside over the years to tell you that one. That's why GW abandoned roleplaying in the first place! I'm not 100% convinced that the prevailing industry wisdom, which seems to be that to survive you have to pile 'em high and sell 'em very expensive, is sustainable. I feel another blog post coming on... I have to admit that when I first heard that they were relaunching WFRP my response was to doubt they'd last five years, which is why it took me so long to get around to getting the second edition in the first place. Ultimately though, I don't think it really matters. The franchise will probably get licensed off to someone - either Green Ronin will take it on solo or possibly Mongoose (who claim to be doing very well and I seem to recall from my job interview with them were all 40K nuts). And <a href="http://www.warpstone.org/" rel="nofollow">Warpstone</a> demonstrates that fan material can easily be the match of "official" stuff. Oh, I’m sure it makes sense commercially (I should point out that their business is now pulp fiction as well which by all accounts is doing very well), but it’s still bloody annoying. Either you’re in the business or you ain’t. Fundamentally, I don’t think they thought enough about their business plan. The RPG business is not a profitable one - there are loads of dead companies that have fallen by the wayside over the years to tell you that one. That’s why GW abandoned roleplaying in the first place! I’m not 100% convinced that the prevailing industry wisdom, which seems to be that to survive you have to pile ‘em high and sell ‘em very expensive, is sustainable. I feel another blog post coming on…

I have to admit that when I first heard that they were relaunching WFRP my response was to doubt they’d last five years, which is why it took me so long to get around to getting the second edition in the first place.

Ultimately though, I don’t think it really matters. The franchise will probably get licensed off to someone - either Green Ronin will take it on solo or possibly Mongoose (who claim to be doing very well and I seem to recall from my job interview with them were all 40K nuts). And Warpstone demonstrates that fan material can easily be the match of “official” stuff.

]]> By: Tony Brotherton http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2008/01/31/25-years-later/#comment-155672 Tony Brotherton Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:16:18 +0000 http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2008/01/31/25-years-later/#comment-155672 I read about this on <a href="http://www.gamingreport.com/article.php?sid=24740" rel="nofollow">GamingReport.com</a>. Looks like Black Industries have been told not to take any risks and stick to their core business. In the light of recent GW profits warning, I can see that this is a sensible "commercial decision" as they face an uncertain future when their Lord of the Rings line has run its course. Why would they want to get into the business of producing an RPG? which would only take away from their core business which is little lead figures, books full of pretty pictures of their little lead figures and pots of paint to paint their little lead figures. I read about this on GamingReport.com. Looks like Black Industries have been told not to take any risks and stick to their core business. In the light of recent GW profits warning, I can see that this is a sensible “commercial decision” as they face an uncertain future when their Lord of the Rings line has run its course.

Why would they want to get into the business of producing an RPG? which would only take away from their core business which is little lead figures, books full of pretty pictures of their little lead figures and pots of paint to paint their little lead figures.

]]> By: James Graham http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2008/01/31/25-years-later/#comment-155569 James Graham Thu, 31 Jan 2008 14:11:16 +0000 http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2008/01/31/25-years-later/#comment-155569 You could always tell me to grow up, get a life and stop shoving my <em>faux</em> radical lifestyle down your throat. That would of course be <em>illiberal</em>. :) You could always tell me to grow up, get a life and stop shoving my faux radical lifestyle down your throat. That would of course be illiberal. :)

]]> By: Gavin Whenman http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2008/01/31/25-years-later/#comment-155568 Gavin Whenman Thu, 31 Jan 2008 14:09:10 +0000 http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2008/01/31/25-years-later/#comment-155568 I don't think "geek" adequately covers this. I don’t think “geek” adequately covers this.

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