Comments on: My leadership dilemma http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/10/17/my-leadership-dilemma/ “ferocity with a purpose” Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:30:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Mike http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/10/17/my-leadership-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-96909 Mike Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:35:54 +0000 http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/10/17/my-leadership-dilemma/#comment-96909 Electoral reform. The NHS. Privatisation. Let's talk real issues here and leave the personalities to the media. [Why all the secrecy about what happened to Ming? What sort of open party are we if Ming is forbidden from telling us what really happened?] If I want a conservative I will vote Tory or Labour. Give us a real alternative, please! Let's see where the contenders stand. Electoral reform. The NHS. Privatisation. Let’s talk real issues here and leave the personalities to the media.

[Why all the secrecy about what happened to Ming? What sort of open party are we if Ming is forbidden from telling us what really happened?]

If I want a conservative I will vote Tory or Labour. Give us a real alternative, please! Let’s see where the contenders stand.

]]> By: Top of the Blogs: The Golden Dozen #35 | Liberal Democrat Voice http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/10/17/my-leadership-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-96602 Top of the Blogs: The Golden Dozen #35 | Liberal Democrat Voice Sun, 21 Oct 2007 16:48:30 +0000 http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/10/17/my-leadership-dilemma/#comment-96602 [...] My leadership dilemma on James Graham’s Quaequam [...] [...] My leadership dilemma on James Graham’s Quaequam [...]

]]> By: James Graham http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/10/17/my-leadership-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-95848 James Graham Fri, 19 Oct 2007 09:01:21 +0000 http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/10/17/my-leadership-dilemma/#comment-95848 Yes, but given the fact that this article was posted at midnight on Wednesday and the total lack of any psychic powers on my part, you'll have to live with it. Yes, but given the fact that this article was posted at midnight on Wednesday and the total lack of any psychic powers on my part, you’ll have to live with it.

]]> By: Letters From A Tory http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/10/17/my-leadership-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-95834 Letters From A Tory Fri, 19 Oct 2007 08:10:31 +0000 http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/10/17/my-leadership-dilemma/#comment-95834 Haven't Steve Webb and Susan Kramer ruled themselves out now? http://lettersfromatory.wordpress.com Haven’t Steve Webb and Susan Kramer ruled themselves out now?

http://lettersfromatory.wordpress.com

]]> By: Guy Burton http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/10/17/my-leadership-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-95567 Guy Burton Thu, 18 Oct 2007 09:37:37 +0000 http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/10/17/my-leadership-dilemma/#comment-95567 James I agree with you, the timing is a bit rushed, especially as things quieten down over the Christmas period. I can't see why it can't be stretched out into the New Year. Still, at least you and other, UK-based members will actually be able to vote. As I will be abroad from early November until the New Year I've been told by Cowley Street that there's no possibility of me being able to participate: I'd have to change my postal address and I don't think the postal services lend themselves to a speedy trip between the UK and South America. Surprising too, to discover the party hasn't got any method of enabling members to vote electronically or online in place. I would have thought that a party as wired up as ours would have considered that! Of course, had the party followed my course and not opted for the 'safe pair of hands' option last year, I wouldn't be trying to find this all out! C'est la vie! Guy James

I agree with you, the timing is a bit rushed, especially as things quieten down over the Christmas period. I can’t see why it can’t be stretched out into the New Year.

Still, at least you and other, UK-based members will actually be able to vote. As I will be abroad from early November until the New Year I’ve been told by Cowley Street that there’s no possibility of me being able to participate: I’d have to change my postal address and I don’t think the postal services lend themselves to a speedy trip between the UK and South America.

Surprising too, to discover the party hasn’t got any method of enabling members to vote electronically or online in place. I would have thought that a party as wired up as ours would have considered that!

Of course, had the party followed my course and not opted for the ’safe pair of hands’ option last year, I wouldn’t be trying to find this all out!

C’est la vie!

Guy

]]> By: Letters From A Tory http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/10/17/my-leadership-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-95566 Letters From A Tory Thu, 18 Oct 2007 09:27:10 +0000 http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/10/17/my-leadership-dilemma/#comment-95566 I'm not sure a Lib Dem raving on about market economics is necessarily going to enthuse the party. What about all the Lefties that Gordon Brown has abandoned? Why not chase after their votes? I’m not sure a Lib Dem raving on about market economics is necessarily going to enthuse the party. What about all the Lefties that Gordon Brown has abandoned? Why not chase after their votes?

]]> By: Antony Hook http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/10/17/my-leadership-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-95500 Antony Hook Wed, 17 Oct 2007 23:39:13 +0000 http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/10/17/my-leadership-dilemma/#comment-95500 James, It's not a question of whether we have the stomach to defy the media. The question is whether we have the means; will we find a leader with a force of quality that the media have to accept? That question can only be answered by the candidates to be leader. James,

It’s not a question of whether we have the stomach to defy the media. The question is whether we have the means; will we find a leader with a force of quality that the media have to accept?

That question can only be answered by the candidates to be leader.

]]> By: Charlotte Gore http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/10/17/my-leadership-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-95457 Charlotte Gore Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:44:09 +0000 http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/10/17/my-leadership-dilemma/#comment-95457 I have to agree. It's very easy to get lost in Clegg mania - I can't help getting rather excited when I see him on television or find something he's written but I am trying to restrain myself and wait for his actual platform to be revealed. Obviously the candidate with the most appeal to the broadest base of people would be a good start, and any positive vibes from the media should not be sniffed at considering media relations seem to be our biggest problem. Still, I'm looking for a reformer and I'm feeling a bit silly about assuming that Clegg will have a reforming agenda... we'll have to wait and see. I have to agree. It’s very easy to get lost in Clegg mania – I can’t help getting rather excited when I see him on television or find something he’s written but I am trying to restrain myself and wait for his actual platform to be revealed.

Obviously the candidate with the most appeal to the broadest base of people would be a good start, and any positive vibes from the media should not be sniffed at considering media relations seem to be our biggest problem.

Still, I’m looking for a reformer and I’m feeling a bit silly about assuming that Clegg will have a reforming agenda… we’ll have to wait and see.

]]> By: Andy Mayer http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/10/17/my-leadership-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-95363 Andy Mayer Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:20:36 +0000 http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/10/17/my-leadership-dilemma/#comment-95363 Similar dilemma, slightly different angle. I've got a heck of a lot of time for both Chris and Nick. Neither represent something in the party that I oppose. Both have strong but different cases to be leader this time. To explicitly join either leadership campaign then seems somewhat disloyal to the other. Similar dilemma, slightly different angle. I’ve got a heck of a lot of time for both Chris and Nick. Neither represent something in the party that I oppose. Both have strong but different cases to be leader this time. To explicitly join either leadership campaign then seems somewhat disloyal to the other.

]]> By: James Graham http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/10/17/my-leadership-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-95343 James Graham Wed, 17 Oct 2007 10:22:33 +0000 http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/10/17/my-leadership-dilemma/#comment-95343 I'm not sure that supporting Nick out of "laziness and habit" is any better than having a malicious agenda, but I take your point. Maybe I am too hard on Nick, but I went from being one of the people urging him to stand in 2006 to feeling quite browned off by his conduct during the campaign. I'm not ruling out supporting him though. I would just like better reasons than charisma and the fact that the media want him. I’m not sure that supporting Nick out of “laziness and habit” is any better than having a malicious agenda, but I take your point. Maybe I am too hard on Nick, but I went from being one of the people urging him to stand in 2006 to feeling quite browned off by his conduct during the campaign.

I’m not ruling out supporting him though. I would just like better reasons than charisma and the fact that the media want him.

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