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	<title>Comments on: Democracy and deckchairs</title>
	<link>http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/09/19/democracy-and-deckchairs/</link>
	<description>crass, boorish and more a bruiser than blogger</description>
	<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: James Graham</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/09/19/democracy-and-deckchairs/#comment-91827</link>
		<dc:creator>James Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 12:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/09/19/democracy-and-deckchairs/#comment-91827</guid>
		<description>Terry and Jools: don't humilate yourselves any further.  "cujimmy"'s IP is: 98.206.89.167, which ain't mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terry and Jools: don&#8217;t humilate yourselves any further.  &#8220;cujimmy&#8221;&#8217;s IP is: 98.206.89.167, which ain&#8217;t mine.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie Marks</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/09/19/democracy-and-deckchairs/#comment-91600</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie Marks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/09/19/democracy-and-deckchairs/#comment-91600</guid>
		<description>James, I have not concluded anything more than that I think that England should have a parliament. If there are others with repugnant views who agree with me on this question, should I change my mind?

As for my priorities, in Scotland and Wales the neoliberal assault on working people has been ever-so-slightly slowed down. Brown's pay freeze held only in England, where there was no devolved government that could bow to pressure...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, I have not concluded anything more than that I think that England should have a parliament. If there are others with repugnant views who agree with me on this question, should I change my mind?</p>
<p>As for my priorities, in Scotland and Wales the neoliberal assault on working people has been ever-so-slightly slowed down. Brown&#8217;s pay freeze held only in England, where there was no devolved government that could bow to pressure&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/09/19/democracy-and-deckchairs/#comment-91568</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 19:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/09/19/democracy-and-deckchairs/#comment-91568</guid>
		<description>Jools, yes indeed. Cujimmey is too "cartoon-ey" and way unrepresentitive of the supporters of an EP that I've encountered. The sentences of both scan in a similar way too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jools, yes indeed. Cujimmey is too &#8220;cartoon-ey&#8221; and way unrepresentitive of the supporters of an EP that I&#8217;ve encountered. The sentences of both scan in a similar way too.</p>
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		<title>By: Jools</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/09/19/democracy-and-deckchairs/#comment-91539</link>
		<dc:creator>Jools</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 16:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/09/19/democracy-and-deckchairs/#comment-91539</guid>
		<description>Going on James' track record for honesty, "cujimmy?" is most likely to be James himself in sock puppet mode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going on James&#8217; track record for honesty, &#8220;cujimmy?&#8221; is most likely to be James himself in sock puppet mode.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/09/19/democracy-and-deckchairs/#comment-91276</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/09/19/democracy-and-deckchairs/#comment-91276</guid>
		<description>PS. cujimmy is a Scottish troll IMHO, I've never heard anyone speak like this before.

I think he's just trying to give us a bad name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS. cujimmy is a Scottish troll IMHO, I&#8217;ve never heard anyone speak like this before.</p>
<p>I think he&#8217;s just trying to give us a bad name.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/09/19/democracy-and-deckchairs/#comment-91275</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/09/19/democracy-and-deckchairs/#comment-91275</guid>
		<description>James, no you haven’t explained at all.

The first you mentioned it was at 6.33 when you accused Jools of being in a state of denial because he told you a link was broken. He asked how he was in denial, and you didn’t answer except to say the Scottish nats were in a state of denial too.

Charlie then asked if he was in a state of denial, but you didn’t answer him. I then asked what we were denying and you said you’ve “…spelt that out so many times now. The fact that you don’t even register the accusation says it all.” It doesn’t register because you’ve never explained it, I’ve been through the whole bloody set of posts again…where is it? Humour me.

…and then you went onto ask Tommy “What better illustration of ingrained denial is there?”

So there’s me, Jools, Tommy, Charlie and the Scottish nationalists all denying something, but what that something is, is a closely guarded secret. 

...and finally, you say we're proving your point...are you sure you’re not “projecting”?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, no you haven’t explained at all.</p>
<p>The first you mentioned it was at 6.33 when you accused Jools of being in a state of denial because he told you a link was broken. He asked how he was in denial, and you didn’t answer except to say the Scottish nats were in a state of denial too.</p>
<p>Charlie then asked if he was in a state of denial, but you didn’t answer him. I then asked what we were denying and you said you’ve “…spelt that out so many times now. The fact that you don’t even register the accusation says it all.” It doesn’t register because you’ve never explained it, I’ve been through the whole bloody set of posts again…where is it? Humour me.</p>
<p>…and then you went onto ask Tommy “What better illustration of ingrained denial is there?”</p>
<p>So there’s me, Jools, Tommy, Charlie and the Scottish nationalists all denying something, but what that something is, is a closely guarded secret. </p>
<p>&#8230;and finally, you say we&#8217;re proving your point&#8230;are you sure you’re not “projecting”?</p>
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		<title>By: James Graham</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/09/19/democracy-and-deckchairs/#comment-91165</link>
		<dc:creator>James Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 07:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/09/19/democracy-and-deckchairs/#comment-91165</guid>
		<description>cujimmy: you guys just love proving my point don't you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cujimmy: you guys just love proving my point don&#8217;t you?</p>
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		<title>By: James Graham</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/09/19/democracy-and-deckchairs/#comment-91164</link>
		<dc:creator>James Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 07:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/09/19/democracy-and-deckchairs/#comment-91164</guid>
		<description>Charlie: your problem is that by standing with people with abhorrant views (and I think you know that many of these people have pretty abhorrant views), you legitimise them.  Clearly you've concluded that your enemy's enemy is your friend, but I do question your priorities.

Terry: I've spelt that out so many times now.  The fact that you don't even register the accusation says it all.

Tommy: What better illustration of ingrained denial is there?  One minute you're demanding for the reality of English identity to be recognised, the next you're claiming it doesn't exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie: your problem is that by standing with people with abhorrant views (and I think you know that many of these people have pretty abhorrant views), you legitimise them.  Clearly you&#8217;ve concluded that your enemy&#8217;s enemy is your friend, but I do question your priorities.</p>
<p>Terry: I&#8217;ve spelt that out so many times now.  The fact that you don&#8217;t even register the accusation says it all.</p>
<p>Tommy: What better illustration of ingrained denial is there?  One minute you&#8217;re demanding for the reality of English identity to be recognised, the next you&#8217;re claiming it doesn&#8217;t exist.</p>
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		<title>By: cujimmy?</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/09/19/democracy-and-deckchairs/#comment-91159</link>
		<dc:creator>cujimmy?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 06:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/09/19/democracy-and-deckchairs/#comment-91159</guid>
		<description>James Graham sounds like a self-rightous porridge eating twat to me!
 How is graham pronounced by your very arrogant self then Graham? Is it gra'ham? Sweaty sock name aint it? ha! ha! I bet your some prick with a sweaty sock great great grand daddy aint yer mate? 

Personally, I couldnt give a fuckin' shite, opps, I meant to say rat's arse whether anti-English fascist idiots like you agree with the English having self-determination or not! Know what I mean sonny? 
 How immature are you? Posting your own quip ("well 'ave you sonny") to try and justify your own bigotry! You truly are an amateur!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James Graham sounds like a self-rightous porridge eating twat to me!<br />
 How is graham pronounced by your very arrogant self then Graham? Is it gra&#8217;ham? Sweaty sock name aint it? ha! ha! I bet your some prick with a sweaty sock great great grand daddy aint yer mate? </p>
<p>Personally, I couldnt give a fuckin&#8217; shite, opps, I meant to say rat&#8217;s arse whether anti-English fascist idiots like you agree with the English having self-determination or not! Know what I mean sonny?<br />
 How immature are you? Posting your own quip (&#8221;well &#8216;ave you sonny&#8221;) to try and justify your own bigotry! You truly are an amateur!</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/09/19/democracy-and-deckchairs/#comment-91156</link>
		<dc:creator>Tommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 06:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/09/19/democracy-and-deckchairs/#comment-91156</guid>
		<description>"Outside of your fever dreams, we don’t have a government which lacks any English ministers - in fact the majority of them are English."
I think you will find you are wrong here, England politically and constitutionally does not exist, therefore in Westminster there are Scottish ministers, Welsh ministers, Northern Irish ministers and BRITISH ministers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Outside of your fever dreams, we don’t have a government which lacks any English ministers - in fact the majority of them are English.&#8221;<br />
I think you will find you are wrong here, England politically and constitutionally does not exist, therefore in Westminster there are Scottish ministers, Welsh ministers, Northern Irish ministers and BRITISH ministers.</p>
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