Comments on: E X C L U S I V E (ish): Mingmeet - where’s the meat? http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/09/17/e-x-c-l-u-s-i-v-e-ish-mingmeet-wheres-the-meat/ crass, boorish and more a bruiser than blogger Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:11:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: Hywel Morgan http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/09/17/e-x-c-l-u-s-i-v-e-ish-mingmeet-wheres-the-meat/#comment-89954 Hywel Morgan Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:42:24 +0000 http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/09/17/e-x-c-l-u-s-i-v-e-ish-mingmeet-wheres-the-meat/#comment-89954 The FE reported soon after the last General that we needed a narrative. We could now be a few weeks from the next General Election (over two years later) and we still haven't got one. Bunch of incompetents. (excepting a few honourable ones :-) Polling - I was banging the drum for ages that the issue of race/immigration was rocketing up the list of public concerns and was always told it didn't show up in the party's polling. We've been stuck in the "groove" of running the same issues as we did in 97 when all the indications (see Mori website) are that things have changed significantly. The FE reported soon after the last General that we needed a narrative. We could now be a few weeks from the next General Election (over two years later) and we still haven’t got one. Bunch of incompetents. (excepting a few honourable ones :-)

Polling - I was banging the drum for ages that the issue of race/immigration was rocketing up the list of public concerns and was always told it didn’t show up in the party’s polling. We’ve been stuck in the “groove” of running the same issues as we did in 97 when all the indications (see Mori website) are that things have changed significantly.

]]> By: David Lindsay http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/09/17/e-x-c-l-u-s-i-v-e-ish-mingmeet-wheres-the-meat/#comment-89920 David Lindsay Mon, 17 Sep 2007 16:02:46 +0000 http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/09/17/e-x-c-l-u-s-i-v-e-ish-mingmeet-wheres-the-meat/#comment-89920 There was no shortage of "wannabe warmongers" on the Lib Dem benches, Ming included. And doubtless, the Lib Dems were doing the same thing with the Tories "against" Labour in the South. not to mention Labour doing it with the Tories "against" the Lib Dems in places like the West Country. Is there anyone who still doubts that Britain is now a one-party state? If so, then they should be committed. There was no shortage of “wannabe warmongers” on the Lib Dem benches, Ming included. And doubtless, the Lib Dems were doing the same thing with the Tories “against” Labour in the South. not to mention Labour doing it with the Tories “against” the Lib Dems in places like the West Country.

Is there anyone who still doubts that Britain is now a one-party state? If so, then they should be committed.

]]> By: Chris Paul http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/09/17/e-x-c-l-u-s-i-v-e-ish-mingmeet-wheres-the-meat/#comment-89879 Chris Paul Mon, 17 Sep 2007 13:13:11 +0000 http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/09/17/e-x-c-l-u-s-i-v-e-ish-mingmeet-wheres-the-meat/#comment-89879 Thanks for the link James. I wasn't in a branch within Withington at the time of the last election and because they thought they had it in hand worked mainly in Manchester Central, Oldham West, Bury North - I blogged it for So Now Who Do We Vote For - and there are a few Withington incursions in the 100 posts there. But not that many. I think this is mischief from Campbell and/or Razzall myself. Tories and Labour are more likely to compare notes in my opinion. And in Cheadle one of the Tory lines that the Lib Dems complained about so much was actually lifted almost verbatim from a Lib Dem line against Labour in another place. Sadly the Manchester Withington catastrophe was not the result of oggling and saying ... "I know we'll not only give you Rochdale but also piss away a five figure majority in Man Wit" ... "Meanwhile you Lib Dems will do what exactly to help us win a seat from the Tories?" Meanwhile at local government level there have been examples of collusion between both the Greens and the Tories and you Libs and the pair of results in Newton Heath and Miles Platting vs High Blackley also had tongues wagging. Thanks for the link James. I wasn’t in a branch within Withington at the time of the last election and because they thought they had it in hand worked mainly in Manchester Central, Oldham West, Bury North - I blogged it for So Now Who Do We Vote For - and there are a few Withington incursions in the 100 posts there. But not that many.

I think this is mischief from Campbell and/or Razzall myself. Tories and Labour are more likely to compare notes in my opinion. And in Cheadle one of the Tory lines that the Lib Dems complained about so much was actually lifted almost verbatim from a Lib Dem line against Labour in another place.

Sadly the Manchester Withington catastrophe was not the result of oggling and saying … “I know we’ll not only give you Rochdale but also piss away a five figure majority in Man Wit” … “Meanwhile you Lib Dems will do what exactly to help us win a seat from the Tories?”

Meanwhile at local government level there have been examples of collusion between both the Greens and the Tories and you Libs and the pair of results in Newton Heath and Miles Platting vs High Blackley also had tongues wagging.

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