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	<title>Comments on: Return to Ealing Southall</title>
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		<title>By: Liberal Democrat Voice &#187; Top of the Blogs: The Golden Dozen #23</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberal Democrat Voice &#187; Top of the Blogs: The Golden Dozen #23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 2. Quaequam Ealing Southall on Paul Walter’s Liberal Burblings blog. It doesn’t seem quite fair somehow that this post gained second place, but James’s article didn’t feature in the Golden Dozen last week: so here it is. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 2. Quaequam Ealing Southall on Paul Walter’s Liberal Burblings blog. It doesn’t seem quite fair somehow that this post gained second place, but James’s article didn’t feature in the Golden Dozen last week: so here it is. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Walter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 08:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No they didn't James. And I was only trying to be a clever dick rather than rebut one of your points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No they didn&#8217;t James. And I was only trying to be a clever dick rather than rebut one of your points.</p>
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		<title>By: melian</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/07/21/return-to-ealing-southall/#comment-75881</link>
		<dc:creator>melian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 01:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One point to your otherwise excellent analysis. I have the understanding that Tony Lit is actually from Ealing, and thus a local candidate. But of course that's not enough to make him a &lt;i&gt;good&lt;/i&gt; candidate. I think that Lib Dems have also had some candidates who didn't live in the constituency, or at least didn't before they were elected, but they were still elected, because they were good.

About Cameron: I have had already from almost the beginning of his leadership a feeling that he is like a blindfolded child beating the air with a stick in hope to hit the piñata so that it would break and there would be a shower of candies. Cameron doesn't have any vision or knowledge of the direction where he should go, either, but he pokes at every direction just in the case that he would win the prise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One point to your otherwise excellent analysis. I have the understanding that Tony Lit is actually from Ealing, and thus a local candidate. But of course that&#8217;s not enough to make him a <i>good</i> candidate. I think that Lib Dems have also had some candidates who didn&#8217;t live in the constituency, or at least didn&#8217;t before they were elected, but they were still elected, because they were good.</p>
<p>About Cameron: I have had already from almost the beginning of his leadership a feeling that he is like a blindfolded child beating the air with a stick in hope to hit the piñata so that it would break and there would be a shower of candies. Cameron doesn&#8217;t have any vision or knowledge of the direction where he should go, either, but he pokes at every direction just in the case that he would win the prise.</p>
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		<title>By: James Graham</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/07/21/return-to-ealing-southall/#comment-75852</link>
		<dc:creator>James Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 20:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think I was necessarily saying that Mandelson had a Midas Touch.  But did they go for Newbury in the way they did for Littleborough and Saddleworth?  My recollection is that they did not, but I'm happy to stand corrected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think I was necessarily saying that Mandelson had a Midas Touch.  But did they go for Newbury in the way they did for Littleborough and Saddleworth?  My recollection is that they did not, but I&#8217;m happy to stand corrected.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Walter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 20:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is worth bearing in mind that Peter Mandleson was agent for Labour at the Newbury by-election where they lost their deposit. So his MIdas touch is rather questionable.

As for this stuff about 1989 and the first time we've not won from second, If you take Newbury as an example we had nearly three months to campaign, we controlled the local council and had come second at parliamentary elections in Newbury constituency since the early 1960s - whereas at Ealing Southall we had three weeks to campaign, had only come second for the first time at the previous general election and had only one councillor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is worth bearing in mind that Peter Mandleson was agent for Labour at the Newbury by-election where they lost their deposit. So his MIdas touch is rather questionable.</p>
<p>As for this stuff about 1989 and the first time we&#8217;ve not won from second, If you take Newbury as an example we had nearly three months to campaign, we controlled the local council and had come second at parliamentary elections in Newbury constituency since the early 1960s - whereas at Ealing Southall we had three weeks to campaign, had only come second for the first time at the previous general election and had only one councillor.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 19:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the theme of over excitable tories, I can remember about two weeks out from polling day in Leicester South a particularly obnoxious CFer (is there any other kind?) betting me £50 that they would win. Gave me Daddy's business card and everything so I could get in contact after the result.

Not surprisingly the little bugger didn't pay up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the theme of over excitable tories, I can remember about two weeks out from polling day in Leicester South a particularly obnoxious CFer (is there any other kind?) betting me £50 that they would win. Gave me Daddy&#8217;s business card and everything so I could get in contact after the result.</p>
<p>Not surprisingly the little bugger didn&#8217;t pay up.</p>
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		<title>By: James Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think its probably safe to assume it must be a fake, but who knows?  Is the fake Grant Shapps any less fake than the 'real' Grant Shapps?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think its probably safe to assume it must be a fake, but who knows?  Is the fake Grant Shapps any less fake than the &#8216;real&#8217; Grant Shapps?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Pack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Pack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 16:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it is the real Grant Shapps, I guess he's forgotten that he previously made the "there'll be a media story proving the story in the next 14 days" claim in an email to a Liberal Democrat member more than 14 days ago...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it is the real Grant Shapps, I guess he&#8217;s forgotten that he previously made the &#8220;there&#8217;ll be a media story proving the story in the next 14 days&#8221; claim in an email to a Liberal Democrat member more than 14 days ago&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nich Starling</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nich Starling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 14:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I assume we can't believe that Grant Shapps has actually posted to your blog as someone surely guessed his password (don't all internet guru's use 1234 as their passwords ?).

James, this is an excellent analysis. No amount of bluster from an out of his depth agent who "folded" when put under proper analysis can hide that htis was disastrous for the Tories.

Grant Shapps said repeatedly on TV that third parties always get squeezed. I know he failed to repeat that here as it is a lie and patently untrue (just look at Sedgefield).

If the Tories ONLY success was stopping the Lib Dems winning then that is an odd sort of success and hardly a sign of impending victory in a general election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I assume we can&#8217;t believe that Grant Shapps has actually posted to your blog as someone surely guessed his password (don&#8217;t all internet guru&#8217;s use 1234 as their passwords ?).</p>
<p>James, this is an excellent analysis. No amount of bluster from an out of his depth agent who &#8220;folded&#8221; when put under proper analysis can hide that htis was disastrous for the Tories.</p>
<p>Grant Shapps said repeatedly on TV that third parties always get squeezed. I know he failed to repeat that here as it is a lie and patently untrue (just look at Sedgefield).</p>
<p>If the Tories ONLY success was stopping the Lib Dems winning then that is an odd sort of success and hardly a sign of impending victory in a general election.</p>
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		<title>By: James Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 13:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

But I'd love to see them raise their game because it would force us to raise our game too.  For someone to change however, first they have to recognise they have a problem.  I just don't see the Tories having that level of self-awareness, and my occasional blog posts aren't going to change that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>But I&#8217;d love to see them raise their game because it would force us to raise our game too.  For someone to change however, first they have to recognise they have a problem.  I just don&#8217;t see the Tories having that level of self-awareness, and my occasional blog posts aren&#8217;t going to change that.</p>
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