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	<title>Comments on: DVD economics: what price Doctor Who? (UPDATED)</title>
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	<description>crass, boorish and more a bruiser than blogger</description>
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		<title>By: James Graham</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/06/19/dvd-economics/#comment-65858</link>
		<dc:creator>James Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm proud of my geek status, I just deny having a particular passion for Doctor Who.  Different Alex, by the way!</description>
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		<title>By: Alex Runswick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Runswick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair the fact that you hadn't bought any Dr Who books has more to do with you preferring non-fiction to novels, than it does with your level of geekery - Dr Who or otherwise! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair the fact that you hadn&#8217;t bought any Dr Who books has more to do with you preferring non-fiction to novels, than it does with your level of geekery - Dr Who or otherwise! <img src='http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: James Graham</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/06/19/dvd-economics/#comment-65700</link>
		<dc:creator>James Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 09:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hywel,

I would agree that Series 1 is better than Series 2, but Series 3 is certainly better than its predecessor.  All the series have their high and low points however, and S2 has some moments of genius (the less said about Fear Her the better though).

I'm not sure I should be lumped in with Alex, who is bona fide Whovian aristocracy.  I'm a mere amateur by comparison: I bought my first ever Doctor Who novel last week, and that was for my girlfriend!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hywel,</p>
<p>I would agree that Series 1 is better than Series 2, but Series 3 is certainly better than its predecessor.  All the series have their high and low points however, and S2 has some moments of genius (the less said about Fear Her the better though).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure I should be lumped in with Alex, who is bona fide Whovian aristocracy.  I&#8217;m a mere amateur by comparison: I bought my first ever Doctor Who novel last week, and that was for my girlfriend!</p>
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		<title>By: ADHR</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/06/19/dvd-economics/#comment-65597</link>
		<dc:creator>ADHR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 05:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think demand fully explains it. Compare &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.ca/Doctor-Who-Complete-Second-Boxed/dp/B000JBWWP6/ref=pd_bowtega_3/702-8194924-5388005?ie=UTF8&#38;s=dvd&#38;qid=1182315607&#38;sr=1-3" rel="nofollow"&gt;DW Second Season&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.ca/Smallville-The-Complete-Second-Season/dp/B0001JXPPC/ref=imdbpov_dvd_1/702-8194924-5388005?ie=UTF8&#38;qid=1182315630&#38;sr=1-1" rel="nofollow"&gt;Smallville Second Season&lt;/a&gt; in Canada: the former is about 2/3 more than the latter. (Prices seem pretty comparable for other seasons.) Both are "genre" programs, so the market for both should be approximately as small. Doctor Who might be an import for us; but, if so, then why is the price difference &lt;i&gt;worse&lt;/i&gt; (almost tripling) from Amazon UK?

I suspect the BBC knows we'll pay whatever they charge, so they have no incentive to keep the price reasonable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think demand fully explains it. Compare <a href="http://www.amazon.ca/Doctor-Who-Complete-Second-Boxed/dp/B000JBWWP6/ref=pd_bowtega_3/702-8194924-5388005?ie=UTF8&amp;s=dvd&amp;qid=1182315607&amp;sr=1-3" rel="nofollow">DW Second Season</a> and <a href="http://www.amazon.ca/Smallville-The-Complete-Second-Season/dp/B0001JXPPC/ref=imdbpov_dvd_1/702-8194924-5388005?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1182315630&amp;sr=1-1" rel="nofollow">Smallville Second Season</a> in Canada: the former is about 2/3 more than the latter. (Prices seem pretty comparable for other seasons.) Both are &#8220;genre&#8221; programs, so the market for both should be approximately as small. Doctor Who might be an import for us; but, if so, then why is the price difference <i>worse</i> (almost tripling) from Amazon UK?</p>
<p>I suspect the BBC knows we&#8217;ll pay whatever they charge, so they have no incentive to keep the price reasonable.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnBM</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/06/19/dvd-economics/#comment-65433</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnBM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 22:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its that damn supply/demand ting again.
Hence its still £149.99 (Amazon) for the complete Series 1-7 West Wing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its that damn supply/demand ting again.<br />
Hence its still £149.99 (Amazon) for the complete Series 1-7 West Wing.</p>
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		<title>By: Hywel Morgan</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/06/19/dvd-economics/#comment-65427</link>
		<dc:creator>Hywel Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What extras are there on the Dr Who DVDs?  The BBC are notoriously poor at doing this!

I'll wait a while before buying them as the new series 1 was IMO significantly better than series 2 which was in turn better than what I've seen of series 3.

I'm now going into hiding before James and Alex hunt me down for such heresy :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What extras are there on the Dr Who DVDs?  The BBC are notoriously poor at doing this!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll wait a while before buying them as the new series 1 was IMO significantly better than series 2 which was in turn better than what I&#8217;ve seen of series 3.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m now going into hiding before James and Alex hunt me down for such heresy <img src='http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Laurence Boyce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurence Boyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 15:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed so. In fact I'm in shorts now!</description>
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		<title>By: Alex Wilcock</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/2007/06/19/dvd-economics/#comment-65256</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Wilcock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the reasons &lt;i&gt;Doctor Who &lt;/i&gt;DVDs tend to be more expensive than comparative-length releases is that they have medium sales, top 20 or so rather than huge hit film-scale profits, but have top-end extras – documentaries for every story, commentaries and other goodies, plus an enormous amount of restoration work for the original series, all of which add a lot to the cost of producing the DVD. Big movies can afford a lot of extras because they make a big profit, but if you compare &lt;i&gt;Doctor Who&lt;/i&gt; to TV DVDs from, say, from companies like Network, those are usually devoid of extras and even subtitles. As far as &lt;i&gt;Life On Mars&lt;/i&gt; goes, though, that boxed set has fairly good extras as well, so it does seem slightly strange.

Having said that, I’m surprised that, after a couple of years, no site seems to be selling the 2005 &lt;i&gt;Doctor Who&lt;/i&gt; box set at half price yet. I know that the &lt;i&gt;Doctor Who &lt;/i&gt;range is one of the steadiest sellers – obviously peaking on first release, but all of them continue selling, unlike most DVDs which tail off sharply – but there’s been strong price competition for the original series DVDs, often seen at 50% or more off after a year or so. My best guess would be that the &lt;i&gt;Life On Mars &lt;/i&gt;DVDs started off at a slightly lower price because they were expected to have stronger initial sales and so make their money back more quickly, but that sales dropped off and so the price of Season One was reduced to try and keep people buying. With &lt;i&gt;Doctor Who&lt;/i&gt;, I suspect sales are more inelastic; as long as people keep buying at that price, they’ll keep selling at that price :-^

Or, alternatively, Life is cheap and Doctors are expensive.

And Laurence, in the warm weather, is it not more sensible to be wearing short trousers? ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the reasons <i>Doctor Who </i>DVDs tend to be more expensive than comparative-length releases is that they have medium sales, top 20 or so rather than huge hit film-scale profits, but have top-end extras – documentaries for every story, commentaries and other goodies, plus an enormous amount of restoration work for the original series, all of which add a lot to the cost of producing the DVD. Big movies can afford a lot of extras because they make a big profit, but if you compare <i>Doctor Who</i> to TV DVDs from, say, from companies like Network, those are usually devoid of extras and even subtitles. As far as <i>Life On Mars</i> goes, though, that boxed set has fairly good extras as well, so it does seem slightly strange.</p>
<p>Having said that, I’m surprised that, after a couple of years, no site seems to be selling the 2005 <i>Doctor Who</i> box set at half price yet. I know that the <i>Doctor Who </i>range is one of the steadiest sellers – obviously peaking on first release, but all of them continue selling, unlike most DVDs which tail off sharply – but there’s been strong price competition for the original series DVDs, often seen at 50% or more off after a year or so. My best guess would be that the <i>Life On Mars </i>DVDs started off at a slightly lower price because they were expected to have stronger initial sales and so make their money back more quickly, but that sales dropped off and so the price of Season One was reduced to try and keep people buying. With <i>Doctor Who</i>, I suspect sales are more inelastic; as long as people keep buying at that price, they’ll keep selling at that price :-^</p>
<p>Or, alternatively, Life is cheap and Doctors are expensive.</p>
<p>And Laurence, in the warm weather, is it not more sensible to be wearing short trousers? <img src='http://www.theliberati.net/quaequamblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Laurence Boyce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurence Boyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well indeed. What are we but overgrown children? Good to see you on 18DS last night.</description>
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		<title>By: James Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 13:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my experience, most people fixated with the need to be 'mature' and adult are anything but.  I seem to remember it being a particular preoccupation in the playground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my experience, most people fixated with the need to be &#8216;mature&#8217; and adult are anything but.  I seem to remember it being a particular preoccupation in the playground.</p>
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