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	<title>Comments on: Lies, damned lies, and election results</title>
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		<title>By: Liberal Democrat Voice &#187; Top of the Blogs: the Golden Dozen #12</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberal Democrat Voice &#187; Top of the Blogs: the Golden Dozen #12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 09:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ‘Lies, damn lies, and election results’ on James Graham’s Quaequam Blog! blog. Quashing the notion the Tories are on the march in the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ‘Lies, damn lies, and election results’ on James Graham’s Quaequam Blog! blog. Quashing the notion the Tories are on the march in the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Pack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Pack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 08:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard - no, you're not the only one; indeed, if you read the posting from me that James was commenting on you'll see it talks about the gains at the other end too.

But the overall point is that - our losses were very heavily concentrated in a small number of councils, and understand that is important in terms of both understanding what happened overall (ie it wasn't a general rout across the whole country), why many people in the party have reacted the way they did (ie for by far the majority of activists and members the results in their area were good or indifferent rather than bad) and for understanding what some of the keys are to getting a better result next year (ie it doesn't take many councils to have a huge impact on the overall figures).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard - no, you&#8217;re not the only one; indeed, if you read the posting from me that James was commenting on you&#8217;ll see it talks about the gains at the other end too.</p>
<p>But the overall point is that - our losses were very heavily concentrated in a small number of councils, and understand that is important in terms of both understanding what happened overall (ie it wasn&#8217;t a general rout across the whole country), why many people in the party have reacted the way they did (ie for by far the majority of activists and members the results in their area were good or indifferent rather than bad) and for understanding what some of the keys are to getting a better result next year (ie it doesn&#8217;t take many councils to have a huge impact on the overall figures).</p>
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		<title>By: James Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 18:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it was Mark Pack's proposition, not mine.  But the key test is which direction our vote went in in constituencies which we either hold or are targeting.  From what I've been able to work out, we moved forward, not backwards.

I'm not denying those results were bad from a local government point of view - in fact I've said as much.  But as the key question for the party is whether it can survive the next General Election relatively intact, the news is nothing like as bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it was Mark Pack&#8217;s proposition, not mine.  But the key test is which direction our vote went in in constituencies which we either hold or are targeting.  From what I&#8217;ve been able to work out, we moved forward, not backwards.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not denying those results were bad from a local government point of view - in fact I&#8217;ve said as much.  But as the key question for the party is whether it can survive the next General Election relatively intact, the news is nothing like as bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Gadsden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Gadsden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 12:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it just me that can draw a bell curve?

Of course there are a small number of areas we did exceptionally badly, but if you're going to discount them, then you need to discount the ones where we did exceptionally well as well.

Sorry James, but that proposition is nonsense on its face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it just me that can draw a bell curve?</p>
<p>Of course there are a small number of areas we did exceptionally badly, but if you&#8217;re going to discount them, then you need to discount the ones where we did exceptionally well as well.</p>
<p>Sorry James, but that proposition is nonsense on its face.</p>
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		<title>By: Nich Starling</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nich Starling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 09:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It should be "damned lies"  not "damn lies"</description>
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